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		<title>Just Sit Right Back and You&#8217;ll Hear a Tale&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://janeyouignorantslut.com/10-things-deserted-island/</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 12:44:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
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A Tale of a Fateful Trip&#8230;
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QUICK.
If you were to be stranded on  a desert island what ten things would you want to have with you? (Assuming a water supply and some kind of food source.)

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<h2>A Tale of a Fateful Trip&#8230;</h2>
<p><a href="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/about-jane/"><img title="about Jane" src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/wp-content/themes/jyis_2009/img/jane_75sq.jpg" alt="" align="left" /></a><span style="color: #ff99cc;">.</span></p>
<p>QUICK.</p>
<p>If you were to be stranded on  a desert island what ten things would you want to have with you? (Assuming a water supply and some kind of food source.)</p>
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<li>ipod with everything imaginable on it including the musical equivalent of the cyanide capsule, My Humps by the Black Eyed Peas, in case I couldn&#8217;t take it anymore.</li>
<li>industrial sized drum of Dr. Bronner&#8217;s soap</li>
<li>I&#8217;m thinking I&#8217;m not going to get a way with counting a subscription to People Magazine as one thing, so&#8230;maybe the Norton Anthology of British Literature, the one with the tissue thin pages &#8211; multi-purpose, you know.</li>
<li>a big ass knife</li>
<li>George Clooney.  What?  Why not?</li>
<li>I guess saying Diet Pepsi would be really short-sighted and silly, but honest to god, it&#8217;s what I&#8217;m thinking of right now.</li>
<li>shoes &#8211; not Jimmy Choos, but practical, wear around the coral reef shoes.</li>
<li>fire, and lots of it</li>
<li>sunscreen, especially now that I&#8217;ve got The Cancer</li>
<li>something warm and weatherproof to wear, preferably in pink, bright pink. You never know when the paparazzi might turn up.  Do they make Gortex, fur lined Snuggies?</li>
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<h2>Um, Jane?</h2>
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<p><span style="color: #c0c0c0;">.</span></p>
<p>This is a deserted island.  Clooney would make it decidedly undeserted.  Desserted, maybe.</p>
<p>Anyway, my list:</p>
<ol>
<li>A laminated picture of my family</li>
<li>Laminated dirty picture of my wife</li>
<li>iPod loaded with every Lost and Gilligan&#8217;s Island episode</li>
<li>Bag of weed with the seeds in it</li>
<li>Pack of Bic lighters</li>
<li>Voltmeter</li>
<li>Tattooing equipment</li>
<li>Set of Ginsu knives</li>
<li>Wilson brand volleyball</li>
<li>Tuxedo</li>
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<p><em><small>P.S. Jane: cheater, cheater, pumpkin eater.</small></em></div>
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		<title>Condoms for Children</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 May 2010 04:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
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A swiss company has begun manufacturing and marketing a condom targeted to 12-14 year old boys, called the Hotshot.  Jane loves the idea.  Dan hates it. Have a listen and decide for yourself.

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<p>A swiss company has begun manufacturing and marketing a condom targeted to 12-14 year old boys, called the Hotshot.  Jane loves the idea.  Dan hates it. Have a listen and decide for yourself.</p>
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<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2010/03/04/2010-03-04_switzerland_company_offers_young_boys_extra_small_condom_dubbed_the_hotshot.html" target="_blank">You can read more about the story here</a>.</div>
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		<title>She Wants to Kiss a Girl</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Apr 2010 00:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>dan</dc:creator>
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There was a girl.  She liked a girl.  She wanted to take that girl to a dance.  But the school said no.  Kevin Bacon tried to help out, but in this version of the story, John Lithgow was way too powerful, and he cancelled the whole dance.
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<h2>Podcast</h2>
<p>There was a girl.  She liked a girl.  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/03/12/earlyshow/main6292120.shtml" target="_blank">She wanted to take that girl to a dance.  But the school said no</a>.  Kevin Bacon tried to help out, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087277/" target="_blank">but in this version of the story</a>, John Lithgow was way too powerful, and he cancelled the whole dance.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what Dan and Jane think about it.</p>
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<p>How confident is Dan in his masculinity?  <a href="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/dan_in_drag.jpg">Here he is in drag, circa 1985.</a> Spoiler alert:  Have a hanky ready.  It&#8217;s gonna bring you to tears.</div>
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		<title>Roses Are Red, Violets Are Blue, I am Funny, and You Are Not</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 12:03:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
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Jane says&#8230;
At least eleven two times a day, I get an email forwarded by someone&#8217;s cousin to someone&#8217;s sister to someone&#8217;s coworker to everybody on someone else&#8217;s email list and then to my mother.  Who then forwards said email to me.  Inevitably, it&#8217;s something like this:

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How are husbands like lawn mowers?
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<h2>Jane says&#8230;</h2>
<p><a href="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/about-jane/"><img title="about Jane" src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/wp-content/themes/jyis_2009/img/jane_75sq.jpg" alt="" align="left" /></a>At least <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">eleven</span> two times a day, I get an email forwarded by someone&#8217;s cousin to someone&#8217;s sister to someone&#8217;s coworker to everybody on someone else&#8217;s email list and then to my mother.  Who then forwards said email to me.  Inevitably, it&#8217;s something like this:</p>
<p><img src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/princess_cartoon.gif" alt="" title="Dishing dirt on their prince charmings" width="440" height="218" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-585" /></p>
<p>or these:</p>
<p align="left">How are husbands like lawn mowers?<br />
<em>They&#8217;re hard to get started, they emit noxious odors, and half the time they don&#8217;t work.</em></p>
<p>What do men and pantyhose have in common?<br />
<em>They either cling, run, or don&#8217;t fit right in the crotch! </em></p>
<p>How many men does it take to screw in a light bulb?<br />
<em>One-He just holds it up there and waits for the world to revolve around him.</em></p>
<p>How many men does it take to screw in a light bulb?<br />
<em>Three. One to screw in the bulb, and two to listen to him brag about the screwing part.</em></p>
<p>My very formal research<em> which included asking a few guys at lunch what kinds of jokes they send each other</em> indicates that men do not get the same volume of &#8220;wife&#8221; jokes as women do about husbands.</p>
<p>Most jokes at wives&#8217; expense go something like this:</p>
<p>&#8220;<em>Whenever I go home after we&#8217;ve been out drinking, I turn the headlights off before I get to the driveway. I shut off the engine and coast into the garage. I take my shoes off before I go into the house, I sneak up the stairs, I get undressed in the bathroom. I ease into bed and my wife STILL wakes up and yells at me for staying out so late!&#8221;</em></p>
<p><em>His buddy looks at him and says, &#8220;Well, you&#8217;re obviously taking the wrong approach. I screech into the driveway, slam the door, storm up the steps, throw my shoes into the closet, jump into bed, rub my hands on my wife&#8217;s ass and say, &#8216;How about a blowjob?&#8217; &#8230; and she&#8217;s always sound asleep</em>.&#8221;</p>
<p><img src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/dirty_car_wife_joke1.jpg" alt="" title="Men like the filth" width="384" height="204" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-586" /></p>
<p>Or this:</p>
<p><img src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/nagging_wife_hairdryer.gif" alt="Dan has to admit that Dan really likes this one, and since Dan does all the picture editing and posting, Dan pretty much gets to say what he wants" title="Dan has to admit that Dan really likes this one, and since Dan does all the picture editing and posting, Dan pretty much gets to say what he wants" width="250" height="203" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-584" /></p>
<p>&#8220;My husband is a <em>fill-in-the-blank</em>&#8221; jokes are way more socially acceptable than &#8220;my wife is a <em>fill-in-the-blank</em>&#8221; jokes.  I&#8217;m not saying that this is <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">necessarily</span> how it should be, I&#8217;m just saying this is how it is.  And why is it?  Why is it OK to bash the husbands, but not so cool to bash the wives?</p>
<p>1)  The content of the jokes is key.  In general, jokes about wives are gripes about sex lives or nagging.  The recurring &#8220;sex life&#8221; joke theme is that men aren&#8217;t getting it enough.    Why is this not OK?  We only need to look at the jokes women make about sex for our answer:  you are lazy, hairy, beery, and we are tired of cleaning up after you so we&#8217;d rather just sleep.</p>
<p>2)  Other types of jokes are about nagging wives.  Jokes about nagging wives are stupid.  Like the sex jokes, they only point back to your own shortcomings.   Life imitates art, right?  Are you surprised we nag?  If you would do the shit that you are supposed to do, that you say you&#8217;re going to do, that we need you to do then we won&#8217;t nag.  Furthermore, when you actually do all that stuff &#8211; try to do it the way we said to.  Why do we get to say you should do things?  Because women run the household.  We keep the big calendar and message board in our heads.  You don&#8217;t.   This is why you call us to ask where the Advil is while we&#8217;re out enjoying our first family-free night out with the girls in months or you have to check in with us while we&#8217;re driving home from the grocery store because you have to know immediately how much the 7 year old weighs because some form needs the info. It&#8217;s not that you aren&#8217;t necessary and important, it&#8217;s that you aren&#8217;t as necessary and important as we are.</p>
<p>3)  It&#8217;s OK to husband bash because we need the solidarity and the validation.  Plus we need the laughs.  Because some days, it comes down to two choices:  laugh or pack a bag.</p>
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<h2>&#8230;but Dan thinks&#8230;</h2>
<p><a href="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/about-dan/"><img title="about Dan" src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/wp-content/themes/jyis_2009/img/dan_75sq.jpg" alt="" align="left" /></a><img src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/calvin_girl_peeing.jpg" alt="You sure it's raining?  Smells like piss to me." title="You sure it's raining?  Smells like piss to me." width="222" height="320" align="right" />You know, I kinda get the need for the husband jokes.  It&#8217;s like why everyone hates the United States.  We own everything.  We run everything.  We know how everything works.  We know how to fix everything.      </p>
<p>And we can pee <abbr title="and without any props or getting into yoga-like positions">standing up</abbr>.  It&#8217;s natural to be jealous.  </p>
<p>But I&#8217;m pretty sure that holding the title <abbr title="holder of the family social calendar">&#8220;cruise director&#8221;</abbr> does not make women queens of all they survey.  </p>
<p>The household you run?  You&#8217;re welcome for providing that for you.  The long hours we spent separating clients from their money, constructing their constructions, meeting with fart-breathing bosses and <a href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0151804/quotes" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">filling out TPS reports</a>?  Because you didn&#8217;t see it doesn&#8217;t mean it didn&#8217;t happen, and that it wasn&#8217;t every bit as grueling as plopping the children in front of <a href="http://tv.disney.go.com/playhouse/mickeymouseclubhouse/index.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Mickey Mouse Clubhouse</a> while you run down the Energizers on your <a href="http://www.edenfantasys.com/vibrators/traditional-vibrators/jumbo-massager" title="for size queens only" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">favorite toy</a>.  Oh, right.  That actually ISN&#8217;T that grueling, is it.</p>
<p>You know what Rachel Rae does to prevent every calorie from going to her ass because you have the time.  Time to watch television.  Time to read gossip blogs.  Hell, time to write <a href="http://www.blogher.com/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">your own damn blogs</a>.  </p>
<p>We&#8217;re just too busy to spend all our free time bitching to any other man that&#8217;ll listen about how unfair life is.  </p>
<p>And the reason we can&#8217;t find the Advil?  You keep fucking moving it.  I get wanting to feel like you control your surroundings, but do you have to do it by constantly shuffling everything around in the house?  The answer to &#8220;Where&#8217;s the Advil&#8221; should NOT be &#8220;Billy had soccer that one time and he hurt his knee and so we were sitting on the floor and I gave him the Advil while I held ice on his knee and then Miranda came in and distracted me and I needed to put away the Advil so it was out of reach of the kids and so I think I put it with the spices so check there.&#8221;</p>
<p>Um, no.  The answer should be &#8220;It&#8217;s in the medicine drawer, where it always is.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Ok, now I feel the need to wipe away the piggish veneer and be serious for a minute.  In general I don&#8217;t think men mind that much that women get together and privately dish dirt on their spouses.  Some men dish, too.  But the thing that I feel is wholly unacceptable?  Airing dirty laundry to the world.  Like on a blog.  I&#8217;m not going to name names here, only because Jane has been screaming and pleading that I don&#8217;t, for fear that <abbr title="I disagree, under clause 12.43a of 'All PR is good PR' ">it&#8217;ll mean disaster for this blog</abbr>.  But there are women with high profile blogs who write really insulting things about their husbands and family on a regular basis.  Husband jokes, but in real life.  </p>
<p>Maybe it&#8217;s a lack of maturity that makes these women do this.  Or maybe it&#8217;s a lack of intelligence or foresight.  Or lack of respect.</p>
<p>But one of the first rules you ever learn about interpersonal relations, even as a child, is that if you have an issue with someone, you take it up with that person, not everyone EXCEPT that person.  Maybe those women who blog nasty on their husbands are really, deep down, unhappy and hoping for a divorce and this is how they subconsciously make that happen.  Or maybe they have mice for men (at which point those men should get together for some chest-bumping bro-lidarity, or go buy a t-shirt that says &#8220;she may be the woman, but I&#8217;m the pussy&#8221;).  Whatever the reason, it&#8217;s pretty much indefensible, and all the harm that gets rained down on that relationship because of that behavior is justified.</p>
<p>Husband jokes?  Fine in moderation.  Wife jokes?  Assume the position more often and they&#8217;ll go away.</p>
<p>And?  <a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/relationships/7426359/Mens-hard-work-in-the-home-is-ignored-by-women-study-finds.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">We help out quite a bit around the house</a>.  We just don&#8217;t fly a biplane dragging a message each time we empty the trash.<br />
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		<title>Sex, Drugs and Rock n Roll, Courtesy of the Federal Government</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 01:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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Also soon to be found at a military BX near you: Special K, glow sticks and roofies. And a used double-turntable and a stack of trance music.
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<h2>Dan says&#8230;</h2>
<p><a href="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/about-dan/"><img title="about Dan" src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/wp-content/themes/jyis_2009/img/dan_75sq.jpg" alt="" align="left" /></a>Also soon to be found at a military <a rel="nofollow" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_exchange" target="_blank">BX</a> near you: <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.dancesafe.org/documents/druginfo/ketamine.php" target="_blank">Special K</a>, glow sticks and roofies. And a used double-turntable and a stack of trance music.</p>
<p><img title="Melts in your mouth.  And your vagina." src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/no_junior_mints.jpg" alt="Melts in your mouth.  And your vagina." width="220" height="414" align="right" /><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.cnn.com/2010/US/02/05/military.morning.after.pill/index.html" target="_blank">According to senior CNN reporter Mike Mount</a>, the Plan B (levonorgestrel), morning after pill will become available worldwide in every military medical facility. Conveniently, it&#8217;ll be disguised as a 20-pack of mints.</p>
<p><abbr title="Iraqi Military Rave">IMR</abbr> Coordinator Dick Aplenty says &#8220;this decision will make it way easier to keep our personnel on the battlefield mollified and fighting. We just pump &#8216;em full of Prozac and Special K, stuff their pockets full of birth control and bullets, then send them on their way.&#8221;</p>
<p>Coordinator Aplenty continued &#8220;…and I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s an exaggeration to say we&#8217;ve never had a fighting force this loose before. Morale&#8217;s at an all-time high.&#8221;</p>
<p><a href="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/about-jane/">Jane</a> and I actually talked about this topic by phone about a week ago, and it was fortunate it was by phone, otherwise this post would have been about hospital copays, insurance deductibles and unnecessary rectal exams.</p>
<p>My primary argument remains now what it was then: This. Is. The. Military. It&#8217;s not <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.walmart.com/" target="_blank">Wal*Mart</a>, <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.goodvibes.com/main.jhtml" target="_blank">Good Vibrations</a> and Johnny the Dealer rolled up into one. It&#8217;s the place where we give people guns and instruct them to kill other people. Or protect other people with their guns. All while not getting their shit blown up. Should the military really be stripping them naked and shoving their uglies together in the middle of all that gunplay?</div>
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<h2>&#8230;but Jane thinks&#8230;</h2>
<p><a href="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/about-jane/"><img title="about Jane" src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/wp-content/themes/jyis_2009/img/jane_75sq.jpg" alt="" align="left" /></a>Dan,  choose 1 of the following to describe yourself:  a)  out of touch  b) a repressed Midwesterner laden with Catholic guilt or c) someone practicing Socratic irony &#8211; a little too convincingly.  I&#8217;m praying it&#8217;s  C.</p>
<p><img title="Puritanical Dan" src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/puritan_dan.jpg" alt="Puritanical Dan" width="178" height="300" align="right" />You are being willfully naïve if you think that the way to prepare or support a military during a time of war is to dump them in some godforsaken desert for YEARS at a time with nothing other than cold steel , a scratchy woolen blanket, and some MREs.  I cannot believe that I am in the position here of the Patriot, while you are&#8230;I don’t even know what&#8230;proposing that we deny fighting men and women the same basic rights that other consenting adults have?</p>
<p>It doesn’t seem as if your objection here is to the morality (don’t even start with me, people, it’s completely none of anybody else’s business) of the morning-after pill, but rather the notion that the military should be acknowledging and responding to the simple fact that soldiers are going to have sex – should the lucky moment strike.    Why is that wrong?  They aren’t robots <em>– although, there’s an idea –</em> they are human beings, with physical and emotional desires, probably more in need of human contact and comfort than those of us here safe at home stateside.  Should they not be able to buy tampons or Diet Pepsi?  Those things aren’t necessary to blowing the enemy <em>whoever the hell that is these days</em> sky high.  How about pillows? Nobody<strong> needs</strong> a pillow.  Sure it’s NICE to have a pillow, but if you’re really tired, and I’ll bet those soldiers are, they’ll sleep without one.    Playstation and Xbox, heck, television, computers, cds, ipods.  Those things don’t have much to do with their mission, do they?</p>
<p><img title="the consequences of Dan's birth control ban" src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/clone_babies1.jpg" alt="the consequences of Dan's birth control ban" align="right" />Or maybe your point is that we <em>and by we, I mean you and Goody Brown from the old settlement in Jamestown,</em> shouldn’t be facilitating sexual relationships at all unless they occur between married people at home in their own bed.  And somehow NOT providing birth control is going to keep unmarried adults from having sex.   In a war zone.  When they are scared and lonely.  And bored.  And facing death on a daily basis.   Right&#8230;that’s about as likely as turning up those missing WMDs and yellow cake uranium.</p>
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Dan says&#8230;

What are you doing?
I&#8217;m trying to see if there&#8217;s some way we can get on Badger Care.
Why? We already have insurance.
Because remember how we opted out of maternity coverage after we had our son? 
Ye-
Because when did I start my last period? 
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What are you doing?</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff00ff;">I&#8217;m trying to see if there&#8217;s some way we can get on <a href="http://dhs.wi.gov/badgercareplus/" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">Badger Care</a>.</span></p>
<p>Why? We already have insurance.</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff00ff;">Because remember how we opted out of maternity coverage after we had our son? </span></p>
<p>Ye-</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff00ff;">Because when did I start my last period? </span></p>
<p>I thin-</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff00ff;">Because remember the crazy stuff you&#8217;ve been pulling the last few weeks?</span></p>
<p>Oh……..Shit. Really?</p>
<p><span style="color: #ff00ff;">Yes, really.</span></p>
<p>Wait a minute……………… Really?</p>
<p><span style="color: #808080;"><em>(high-intensity, blue laser cannons turning toward me)</em></span><span style="color: #ff00ff;"> Really.</span></p>
<p>Oh. Shit.</p>
<p><em>Annnnnd scene.</em></p>
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<p>I&#8217;m 41. Too old to be making another run at father of a newborn. Hello? <a href="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/about-dan/">Have you seen the grey hair</a>?</p>
<p><img title="Baby maker" src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/images/pitt_abs.jpg" alt="" align="left" />Sure, Brad Pitt&#8217;s 46 and regularly soaking Angelina Jolie&#8217;s eggs in baby batter, but Brad&#8217;s financially liquid. Comparatively, I&#8217;m a financial dribbler. And, hello again? Have you seen Brad&#8217;s abs? The man&#8217;s a physical specimen. I just watched Fight Club yesterday, for the 32nd time. <abbr title="not that there's anything wrong with that">Even <strong>I</strong> wanna lick his abs</abbr>.</p>
<p>Me? I&#8217;m more of a laboratory specimen. And my abs would be better served as chops with a side of applesauce. Brad&#8217;s gonna live to 100. I can <em>count</em> to 100.</p>
<p>And apparently in my old age and state of medicinal use, I can&#8217;t be trusted to make that all-important time out to gear up, to ensure I&#8217;m not spending the next two years changing diapers. Or that same amount of time <abbr title="Once you cancel maternity coverage, they kinda frown on you trying to hurry up and add that coverage back.  Plus, our insurance sucks.  When our son was born, even with insurance, we ended up paying about $7,000 in medical bills.  The total including what insurance covered was more like $15,000.  Goodbye, yellow brick road.">paying for medical bills</abbr>.</p>
<p>So we&#8217;re thinking about taking that decision out of my hands forever, and putting it into the skilled and hopefully warm and delicate hands of one Dr. Moard.</p>
<p><a href="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/images/post_vasectomy_lg.jpg" target="_blank"><img title="It'll leave your junk in stitches!" src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/images/post_vasectomy.jpg" alt="" align="right" /></a>When I called to make the consultation appointment (where I hear they make you watch a video, presumably of post-coital men giving a great big thumbs-up to having had their nads sliced open), I was all bravado. But as the conversation wore on, I found myself shriveling into my chair and instinctively putting a hand over my crotch. Y&#8217;know, just in case the nurse accidentally tries to give me a vasectomy <em>right there, over the phone</em>.</p>
<p>Am I going to be less of a man if I know I&#8217;m shooting blanks?</p>
<p><img title="The first rule of Fight Club is you do not hug the guy with tits." src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/images/robert_paulson.jpg" alt="" align="right" />What about all the stories I found on the web of <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.google.com/search?q=botched+vasectomy" target="_blank">botched snip jobs</a> where the guy ended up having to have his balls cut clean off? Speaking of Fight Club, hello, Robert Paulson!</p>
<p>Can I REALLY get to a point where I volunteer to let a strange man carve his initials on my genitals? And then have my junk look like this image I found on Wikipedia?</p>
<p>My magic 8-ball says &#8220;Ask Again Later.&#8221;</p>
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<h2>&#8230;but Jane thinks&#8230;</h2>
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<p><em>Doctor I&#8217;d like a vasectomy<br />
First you should talk to your family<br />
I did just today<br />
What did they say<br />
                           They are in favor fifteen to three</em></p>
<p>My eggs are 42 years old.  Older, actually, because I’m pretty sure those little babypods start to grow in utero.  Not my utero.  Well, IN my utero while I was in utero.</p>
<p>I’m confused now.</p>
<p>Let’s start again.</p>
<p>I’m too old to have any more babies.  That, and I can barely handle the ones I have and they’re not even babies anymore.  <em>Excuse me while I lock myself in the bathroom and sob for an hour</em>.  I get emotional about the no baby thing sometimes.  Even though, truth be told, I wasn’t that great with babies.  Not that I endangered them or hated them or dressed them up in weird clothes and took pictures of them for my own amusement or shoved beans up their noses, I just wasn’t a very calm and together mother of babies.  She says<strong>.  In the understatement of the decade.  </strong></p>
<p>My youngest baby child is six.  After she was born, we (husband and me, that is) decided that we were done.  Boy.  Girl.  Done.  Two kids.  Done.  I should probably mention at this point that our discussion of the subject occurred shortly after the one in which my obstetrician told me that with my history of high risk pregnancies that I’d probably just explode upon conception rather than have to suffer through the trials and tribulations of pre-eclampsia and gestational diabetes if I were ever to get knocked up again.  Which, actually, might be preferable to both, but never mind.  Exploding Mommy = Bad Plan. </p>
<p>The thing is,  I tried to get pregnant twice.  And I got pregnant twice.  In fact, the second time, we’d just begun talking about trying to get pregnant again.  I think my husband sneezed near me when I was in the shower because I’m sure there was no scheduled or conscientious effort on either of our parts and then I remember that we both got the flu – the stomach flu – so there was no, er, effort made shortly after this initial “Should we? Shouldn’t we?” conversation.   In other words, in the past, it’s not been hard for us to conceive.</p>
<p>I’ve also never been pregnant other than those two, intentional (mostly) pregnancies.  This makes me very lucky, I think.  Not that I’m a huge tramp and spent most of the 80’s and 90’s whoring it up all over town or anything, but, you know, statistically, <a href="http://www.guttmacher.org/media/presskits/2005/06/28/abortionoverview.html" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">shit happens</a>. But not to me.  And for this I am grateful.  But getting NOT pregnant took some effort on my part (<em>again, I feel I should reiterate that I am not a tramp.  I didn’t get married until I was 32, OK?  What did you expect?  Mom, Dad.  Don’t read this anymore.  I probably should have mentioned that earlier</em>.).  Birth control pills are awful.  Side effects, both long term and short are only the tip of the iceberg.  The patch?  Still birth control pills, just not in pill form, and in my house the patch was called “The Bitch Patch” because within 20 minutes of sticking that little square of hormone-infused plastic to my ass I was transformed into Hormona, The Evil Queen of the Planet Dysmennhorrea. Diaphragm.   Gross.  Bladder infections.  Also.  Gross.  On and on.    I’m not telling anybody anything they don’t already know. </p>
<p>About a month and a half ago, I thought I was pregnant.  It was a very tense two weeks at my house while I mentally checked and rechecked symptoms and then peed on many a stick.  Ultimately, not pregnant.* Did I mention that it was a very tense two weeks at my house?   I miss being pregnant, I miss breastfeeding, I miss having tiny, sweet smelling cuddly warm babies.  What I don’t miss is daycare bills, bottles, formula, baby food, diapers, crying, teething, weird rashes, that thing you have to use to suck out snot when the kid has a cold, weekly (it seems) trips to the pediatrician, not sleeping, getting fat(ter), not spending time with the other people in my house.  Also, I don’t miss diabetes and 20 pounds of water weight and the risk of stroke caused by high blood pressure.  What I would miss?  My car – because I’d need a minivan and then I’d have to kill myself.  Also, my house.  Because there ain’t no room at that inn for another person.  </p>
<p>When men are through breeding, they should all get vasectomies.  It’s a simple, out-patient procedure that results in minor discomfort – and they send you home with pills, so hello?  Win, win as far as I’m concerned.  The only preparation or “inconveniences” after the surgery is a little swelling – great opportunity for humor here, and the need to collect sperm samples before and after.  That’s right.  You, the magazines, a sterilized cup.  My heart breaks for you.</p>
<p>The arguments for why men should get vasectomies instead of women getting tubal ligation or continuing to be responsible for birth control are so frequently trotted out in this debate that they are clichéd at this point.  I don’t care. </p>
<p>I had two c-sections.  Isn’t that enough mucking about with my innards?  You think a little snip snip of the vas deferens makes your knees tremble, boys?  My UTERUS WAS PLACED ON MY STOMACH WHILE THEY STITCHED IT BACK UP.  At the end of my second c-section, I asked the doctor why it smelled like someone was smoking in the OR.  He said, “It’s you.  I’m cauterizing your insides.”</p>
<p>It’s cool.  I’ll wait.  Get a drink of water and put your head between your knees.  The feeling will pass.  </p>
<p>The arguments against vasectomies are that it hurts, it’s gross, and men are afraid.  Ever seen one of these?</p>
<p><img title="Open up and say eww." src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/images/perforator.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>That’s an amnihook.  Used to break a woman’s (mine) water during induced or slow labor. </p>
<p> And this?</p>
<p><img title="And that's going where?" src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/images/atacama_obgyn_hand.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>That’s my obstetrician’s actual hand.  Used to do a lovely procedure called “stripping the membrane” to speed labor along. </p>
<p> The vasectomy procedure, called, unbelievably, Riddle’s Fiddle, consists of two tiny incisions into numbed skin (topical anesthesia before the injection, you big wimps), two snips, and a few stiches.  Which dissolve.  Then you’re home, on Percodan, with a bag of frozen peas between your legs while you lie on the couch and demand beverages and sympathy.   Other than a little private Dad time in the bathroom with the periodical of your choice and some hospital-approved Tupperware, you’re done.</p>
<p> The only real, scientifically proven, negative consequence or side effect of a vasectomy is that it is permanent.  Reversing a vasectomy is often costly, challenging, and ineffective.  Although I don’t see why this is a negative.  That’s the whole damn point, isn’t it?  No more babies?  And not just no more babies with me, no more babies with anybody.  The hell if I’m going to pick up your socks and raise two of your hellion offspring just so you can turn around and decide that you’ve had enough of my bitchy screeds and irrational behavior (till death do you part, buddy) and trade me in for a new model.  A new model who wants babies.   Babies who will make my own babies crazy because that’s what daddy’s new babies do.  And I don’t have the time or energy for some other chick’s babies making my babies crazy.  So no.  No more babies. **</p>
<p> Get ‘er done.  Anymore babies come in this house, mama’s out.</p>
<p><em> * If we had been pregnant, I’d totally have named that kid Daisy, as in “Oopsy Daisy.”</em></p>
<p><em> **Not that he’d ever leave me.  Of course.  I’m a catch.  A bitchy, irrational catch.  Who isn’t having any more babies.</em></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 17:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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My husband has a crush on Isabella Soprano.  And I don&#8217;t really blame him.  She&#8217;s pretty adorable.  For a hooker.
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<p><img title="Isabella Soprano: hooker" src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/images/isabella_soprano.jpg" alt="" align="right" />My husband has a crush on Isabella Soprano.  And I don&#8217;t really blame him.  She&#8217;s pretty adorable.  For a hooker.</p>
<p>The world is divided into two kinds of people:  the people who, by virtue of interest, philosophy, values, or even merely HBO subscription status,  know who Isabella Soprano is, and the people who do not.</p>
<p>Isabella Soprano is the pseudonym of one of the employees at the <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.bunnyranch.net/" target="_blank">Bunny Ranch</a>, a legal Nevada brothel featured in the HBO series, &#8220;Cat House.&#8221;  Not exactly Masterpiece Theater, &#8220;Cat House&#8221; is the documentary style account of life for the employees and clients of this, apparently popular, whorehouse.    I find it both fascinating and disturbing, say, like how I&#8217;d feel about watching an autopsy of a pregnant alien sea monster on high def.  I sort of want to know, but the reality is pretty Ick.</p>
<p><img src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/images/woof_whore.jpg" alt="" align="right" />Isabella is noteworthy because she&#8217;s attractive, in a very girl-next-door kind of way, while the other women who work there?  Bowzer Skanks.  Woof Woof.  I confess to being a bit fascinated by Isabella Soprano, because she is so articulate, and cute, and seemingly normal for a..a&#8230;a&#8230;well&#8230;whore.  The uneducated bleached blondes with wall eyes or the snaggle teeth or the botched tattoos?  That&#8217;s more in line with my&#8230;my&#8230;my&#8230;whore schema.</p>
<p>I catch myself thinking, &#8220;Why is she doing this, when she could be doing something else?&#8221;  The answer is, no doubt, more complicated than the answer I give myself, but probably not by too much.  Girlfriend makes <a rel="nofollow" href="http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081124121617AARPplD" target="_blank">BANK</a>.</p>
<p>So what do we think about prostitution?  The arguments against legalizing prostitution are that it encourages slave sex trade, demeans and objectifies women, promotes violence against women, and actually serves to increase clandestine and illegal prostitution.  Arguments for legalizing prostitution are that criminalizing prostitution is a violation of basic civil rights (the right to engage in fair and voluntary trade and labor practices), legalized prostitution cuts down on the risks of spreading disease (the favorite statistic is that there has not been one case of HIV reported/transmitted among any of the legal brothels in Nevada since legalization),  and that legalized prostitution provides for the safety of prostitutes in a way that criminal prostitution cannot.</p>
<p>There are flaws with the arguments all around, but basically, I think that legalized prostitution is actually not such a bad deal for women.  We know men are going to pay for sex whether the law allows it or not &#8211; and even at great personal risk &#8211; hello Elliot Spitzer I&#8217;m talking to you &#8211; so why not regulate it?  Tax it?  And empower some otherwise entirely unempowered women in the work force.  In that provider-client relationship, the prostitute really does have more power; she is commanding respectable earnings and, although we might nudge nudge wink wink not really conceive of it this way, she&#8217;s working kind of hard.   Doing something I certainly don&#8217;t want to do.   She&#8217;s got some marketing to do in order to command high fees and bring in business.  Hasn&#8217;t the Men&#8217;s Club of big business and advertising had its way with women to earn their big bucks long enough that a little turn-around is really fair play?</p>
<p>My only real objection to legalizing, or even normalizing, prostitution in the way that the marriage between the sex and entertainment industries threatens to is the effect that the hypersexualization of young girls and women is having on those young girls <strong>as</strong> they develop into young women.  Middle schoolers know the names of the big porn stars &#8211; crossover celebrities like Jenna Jameson and Jesse Jane, and they hear how much money they make and see them on the arms of young male celebrities at nightclubs in photo spreads in People Magazine.  When the sex industry seems not just normal but exciting and glamorous, girls are more likely to behave in ways that emulate these sex workers.   And I&#8217;m not judging the sex workers here, porn stars, prostitutes, exotic dancers (Yes, Pussycat Dolls are exotic dancers), &#8220;escorts&#8221; turned musicians, but the danger of the lure of their lifestyle poses for young girls is that they see their sexuality as something to be traded on for profit or acclaim.</p>
<p><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.shadyladyranch.com/" target="_blank">The Shady Lady Ranch</a> a &#8220;Nevada Legal Brothel&#8221; has recently put <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.shadyladyranch.com/guys.html" target="_blank">men on the menu</a>.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s what I have to say about that:</p>
<p>That is the dumbest fucking thing I have ever heard.</p>
<p><img title="Meet Markus, the big dumb jackhammer.  Pile driver, anyone?" src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/images/markus_ewok.gif" alt="" align="right" />First, take a look at this guy.  He looks like a shaved Ewok.  Any woman can tell you that if she wants to get laid, she can go out any night of the week in just about any town in the country, nay THE WORLD, and find some guy who is probably less physically objectionable than Markus here is.  Eliot Spitzer, Hugh Grant, Jimmy Swaggart, Charlie Sheen.  These guys ostensibly sought the services of hookers for reasons of convenience, privacy, and, no doubt, to indulge in some of their kinkier fantasies with a willing participant.</p>
<p>Women don&#8217;t need to pay for this.  Here&#8217;s what women need to do.  Brush their hair and teeth.   Go to a bar.  Flirt with non-scary single male.  At some point mention that you&#8217;d like to get naked and swing from a chandelier while barking like a dog but that you&#8217;re really looking for a no-strings attached kind of relationship, even to the point that the guy shouldn&#8217;t ever call you again or talk to you in public.   Is every single guy you could encounter in a bar on a Tuesday night going to go for this?  No.  Of course not.  And thank God.  But a few of them are.  Without a doubt.  And instead of paying him for his services, he&#8217;ll probably buy you a drink or two.</p>
<p>Second, is it not bad enough that we&#8217;ve got at least two if not three or four generations of girls and young women in this country who are starving themselves, injecting plastic polymers under their skin, dressing to provoke before they even understand who or what they might be provoking, and who are absolutely engaging in ever riskier sexual behaviors at increasingly younger ages?  No?  Not bad enough?  Apparently not.  Because now we&#8217;re going to invite boys and young men to this party?  Anyone could convincingly argue that there are some pros along with the myriad cons for women when they are treated as sex objects.  But no matter how much money some women stand to make, more often than not, the men at the top are making more than the females doing the dirty work.    There is nothing empowering for the men who are going to be turning tricks at the Shady Lady.  Sure, they might make some cash.  They might enjoy fifteen minutes of fame because of the novelty of it all, but ultimately?  Men don&#8217;t need the benefit of empowerment that high-end prostitution might offer some women, but they also don&#8217;t need the objectification and degradation it bring, too.</p>
<p>And at $300 an hour?  I&#8217;d rather pay to get a massage and a foot rub <strong>without</strong> having to have sex after.</div>
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<h2>&#8230;but Dan thinks&#8230;</h2>
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<p>When I heard about a brothel putting the &#8220;dude&#8221; into Dude Ranch, being the business man and penis-carrier I am, I immediately thought of the logistics, business model and marketing.  Here&#8217;s exactly the conversation that went on in my head as I mulled this over:</p>
<p><span style="color: #3a2902;">&#8220;Hmm.  If a woman wants to get laid, she only needs to show up at a bar.  She can be wearing a wife beater, be 3 days post-shower, teeth and hair a mess, but if she makes it known that she wants you to split her uprights, she&#8217;s going home with an erect penis on a leash. </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3a2902;">&#8220;So how do you market this?  Well, what does the dirty, smelly, mussed hair woman get in a man at the bar?  Does he have a big cock?  Hmm, hard to sample that merchandise in public.  Does he have a quick <abbr title="and not in a good way">trigger-finger</abbr>? </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3a2902;">&#8220;Is there any kind of guarantee that he&#8217;d perform even modestly in bed?  Would he even pay <abbr title="again, not in the good way">lip service</abbr> to her needs? </span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3a2902;">&#8220;Ah, that&#8217;s it.  There would need to be some sort of performance guarantee.  An assurance that any money spent on a man would result in some sort of happy ending.  And so maybe the men need to be put into categories &#8211; Markus would be the big, dumb jackhammer.  I&#8217;m sure there are women out there who&#8217;d want a good hard fuck after closing some big business deal.  But there would also be women who&#8217;d want their needs tended to exclusively, who cares if the guy gets off.  Right?  Are you with me?  Of course you are.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3a2902;">&#8220;Hmm, again.  But how can you have a satisfaction guarantee?  I mean the finish line for a guy is pretty easy to reach and easier yet to prove.  But a woman?  Was all the moaning and shuddering just a rehash of When Harry Met Sally?  Could she just want a freebie and claim she never had an orgasm, thereby getting her money back and the brothel going broke?</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3a2902;">&#8220;There&#8217;d have to be some fine print that&#8217;d say &#8216;your man will do his best to fulfill your needs, but just like in life, sometimes men fall short.&#8217;</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3a2902;">&#8220;Oh.  Here&#8217;s another problem.  What if the client&#8217;s ugly?  In this regard the women have it easy.  Quadruplechin&amp;asshair man not turning her on?  Squirt a little lube and she&#8217;s good to go, right?  What does a guy do when he can&#8217;t see anything but that wart on her face and the bulging hemorrhoids?  Pretty hard to fake an erection.</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3a2902;">&#8220;Ah.  Viagra.  We&#8217;ll give it to the studs like candy.  Mints next to the night table.<br />
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<p><span style="color: #3a2902;">&#8220;And what about staying power?  Would there need to be &#8220;tryouts&#8221; to make sure $300 per hour doesn&#8217;t turn into $300 per 6 minutes?  (I have a solution for that &#8211; Zoloft.  But that&#8217;s another story for another time after I&#8217;ve had another drink. Or eight.)</span></p>
<p><span style="color: #3a2902;">&#8220;Ok.  I think this can fly.  It just needs to be marketed to the right types of women.  And they&#8217;d need a corrupt doctor on staff to prescribe <abbr title="selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors">SSRIs</abbr> and assloads of ED meds to keep the men sporting durable wood.</span></p>
<p>And blah, blah, blah, Jane, teaching young men to have sex?  You seem to know the names of porn stars, so I have to ask &#8211; do you know any of the male porn stars&#8217; names?  Porn is watched for the chick, not the dude doin&#8217; the chick.  But the dude is pretty necessary to the video.  Same with this &#8211; no guy is getting famous for something 3 billion other guys on the planet would stand in line to replace him for.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not going to stand in judgment of something I would have gladly done as a summer job.  I just think this is much harder than providing a seed receptacle &#8211; this one will require a pretty bright marketing mind.  I wonder if they&#8217;re accepting applications.</p></div>
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		<title>A Cougar by Any Other Name</title>
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I’ve heard this ridiculous urban legend recently that I think needs to be put to bed.  The legend goes like this:  women in their late 40’s and 50’s are having sex.  I know.  It’s crazy, right?  Sex at that age?  It gets crazier:  some of ‘em are [...]]]></description>
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<h2>Dan says&#8230;</h2>
<p><a href="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/about-dan/"><img title="about Dan" src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/wp-content/themes/jyis_2009/img/dan_75sq.jpg" alt="" align="left" /></a>I’ve heard this ridiculous urban legend recently that I think needs to be put to bed.  The legend goes like this:  women in their late 40’s and 50’s are having sex.  I know.  It’s crazy, right?  Sex at that age?  It gets crazier:  some of ‘em are fucking younger guys.</p>
<p>I mean I saw <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061722/" target="_blank">The Graduate</a> and all, but seriously?  <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000843/" target="_blank">Mrs. Robinson is dead</a>.  Really.</p>
<p>This topic came about when I was pointing out to Jane one of the ads appearing on this site for <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.CougarLife.com" target="_blank">CougarLife.com</a>, the ad slogan being something like “He’s sleeping with someone younger – why can’t you?”</p>
<p><img title="To live the life of a cougar.  Reowr." src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/images/cougar_life.jpg" alt="" /></p>
<p>Jane bristled at the term.  Cougar.  Also known as old, gnarly cat, of the genus <em>felinus cantmakus erectus</em>, in the subspecies <em>huntus perpetua</em>.</p>
<p>Really?  Is that all that’s in a name?  A label?  A cougar is a big, smelly, hairy beast always on the hunt to slake it’s thirst for flesh?</p>
<p>I think it’s about pigeon holes and people’s (read: <a href="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/about-jane/">Jane’s</a>) desire to stay out of them.</p>
<p>Everybody wants to avoid being labeled in a negative way.  Rarely does someone want to be categorized, unless it’s because she falls into the “drop-deap gorgeous” or he falls into the “hung like a Clydesdale” category.</p>
<p>To Jane, cougar = old skank.</p>
<p>I have a different opinion of that label altogether.</p>
<p><img title="...and he saw that it was GOOD." src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/images/jlo_ass.jpg" alt="" align="right" />But first I have to offer up Exhibit A: Jennifer Lopez’s ass.</p>
<p>When JLo rose to fame and fortune, she did more than just make a name for herself.  She made it ok to have an XXL ass.  Even more than ok, she made it desirable.  Growing up in the mid-80’s, if the guys I knew then saw a girl with an ass that big, no way she made it through high school without some therapy for the teasing she would have to endure.  Now teenage guys are jerking off to those same big asses.  JLo made having a large behind an asset.  And men’s appreciation for this new, larger ass didn’t mean some other previously adored form was being neglected.  Oh, no.  It just widened the parameters for what shapes and sizes of female backsides were sexy and desirable.</p>
<p>Just like JLo’s big ass, I think the term cougar doesn’t lend a negative connotation to a woman.  Totally the opposite, in fact.  I think the label opens doors.  It makes it feel more common, more normal for an older woman to have a sexual relationship with a younger man.  And really?  From my perspective, sitting here at 41 and looking in both directions (younger and older)?  I see a younger woman, with her taut skin, pert breasts and bright eyes and I have to say yes, sometimes she’s a pleasure to look at.  Ok, most times.  And I’m generalizing here, but there’s probably also a whole lot about life that she hasn’t figured out yet.  Like maybe she doesn’t know what really turns her on in bed, she’s just always done what she thought her partner would like or <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.dooce.com/archives/daily/02_11_2005.html" target="_blank">what she read on Dooce</a>.  And she’s more about the finish line, less about the journey to get there.</p>
<p>Having been the recipient of the rare flirtation by a younger woman, I can say that it feels pretty damn good.  I have to imagine that an older woman receiving nuanced affections from a younger man has to make her feel good as well.  That this strong young buck wants her the same as he would a younger woman?  Ego boost, right?  Stir the pot a little? (“pot” meaning, uh, nevermind)</p>
<p>And when I think of an older woman who’s sexually active, I automatically think of someone who knows what she likes.  She’s been with a few men, gone through the years of trial and error under the covers, awkward elbows and falls off the Serta, so she can speak pretty plainly and candidly about what she wants and needs from her partner, be he younger or older.</p>
<p>Right.  Are you kidding me?  Clear, open dialogue about likes and dislikes without the emotional baggage of gender roles and the stifling affect of what’s proper to talk about and ask for when the only thing you’re wearing is a cowboy hat and a smile?  Hell yes.  More of that, please.  What man on this planet wouldn’t want that?</p>
<p>I think that on the path toward acceptance of interracial couples, gay couples and (eep!) cougars and their cubs, there need to be interim steps.  We can’t go from taboo to totally cool.  So we come up with this label to tell us that yeah, this thing is out there, it happens enough to have a name, and really?  It’s kinda cool.</p>
<p>So I say happy hunting.</p></div>
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<h2>&#8230;but Jane thinks&#8230;</h2>
<p><a href="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/about-jane/"><img title="about Jane" src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/wp-content/themes/jyis_2009/img/jane_75sq.jpg" alt="" align="left" /></a>Jane thinks  a great many things, particularly on this subject, but let&#8217;s start with one general notion:  Most of the time any contemporary phenomenon is described as &#8220;empowering&#8221; for women, it&#8217;s actually just another way that women get shuttled away back into the corner.  And it&#8217;s common knowledge that NOBODY puts baby in a corner.</p>
<p>Equal opportunity in the job market?  Greaaatttttt&#8230;.thanks.  Now I am expected to work full time <strong>and</strong> keep your house and children together.    Birth control pills?  Greeeaaatttttt&#8230;thanks.  I&#8217;m really enjoying the weight gain, the emotional consequences of artificially introducing unnatural levels of hormones into my bloodstream, the increased risk of stroke and breast cancer, not to mention the responsibility for <strong>not</strong> bringing new and unwanted life into the world.</p>
<p><img title="Comin' to gitcha" src="http://janeyouignorantslut.com/images/cougar-leap.jpg" alt="" align="right" />The moniker &#8220;cougar&#8221; is just another stepping stone down this slippery slope.</p>
<p>Do I think that open dialogue about women&#8217;s needs and desires, particularly in the bedroom <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">or whatever room you prefer, freaks</span>, is valuable and should be encouraged?  Of course.  Do I think that a cultural acknowledgement of the beauty and wisdom and strength of older women is a long time coming and something we should all be campaigning for?  Of course.</p>
<p>Do I think that using <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Cougar&amp;defid=551088" target="_blank">a term that conjures up images of carnivorous predators</a> is useful in these pursuits of greater social, emotional, intellectual, and physical enlightenment?  That would be NO.  Instead, slapping a bestial label on a population of attractive and confident women &#8211; and note, nobody&#8217;s calling Granny McLibrarian with the elastic waist pants and wrinkles so deep she could carry her grandchildren around in them a cougar, the term is reserved for women who are smoking hot, botoxed into statuary, lifted and smoothed, and generally loaded  &#8211; who happen to date younger men reveals society&#8217;s baser instincts.</p>
<p>An older man dating a younger woman?  We might raise an eyebrow, but you and I both know that this dude is getting a slap on the back and a wink wink nudge nudge.  Older man + younger woman is, though, so commonplace as to not even really merit comment.  The older woman with the younger man, however, has accomplished some incredible feat &#8211; clearly a consequence of her sexual prowess (carnivorous) and deliberate efforts (predator).</p>
<p>The only reason Dan thinks that my interpretation of cougar is &#8220;old skank&#8221; is that I laughed out loud and for <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">days</span> a long time when he told me that he thinks Jane Seymour is hot.  Dr. Quinn?  The Max Factor Le Jardin perfume postergirl, from, like 1912?  The <a href="http://www.cliqueclack.com/tv/2008/12/11/why-did-jane-seymour-design-a-testicle-necklace/" target="_blank">testicle-necklace designer</a> (and if that doesn&#8217;t prove my point about cougars being predators, what does??)?</p>
<p>I sort of get Dan&#8217;s point about J. Lo and the junk in her trunk.   To be sure, I&#8217;m way in favor of Appreciating the Big Ass.  But adapting our cultural norms of physical beauty to be more inclusive is only positive, whereas a widely disseminated (yeah, I said it) connotation that an attractive and sexually active older woman in a relationship <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">or whatever the kids are calling it these days</span> with a younger man is a) worthy of note and b) comparable to a wild animal is irresponsible and ultimately damaging.</div>
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